Ohhhhhhh my god, so after reading my how strong is super saiyan chapter I wouldn't be surprised if some of you were expecting something to come from that, and now there is. I will be pitting dbs Goku against Dbgt goku, but mostly what this will be will basically be comparing them on how much times stronger they'd be than ssj3 goku from the buu saga (or just kidd buu for simpler terms) and basically seeing how well these two compare but of course if one passes the other out or if one is clearly no where near the other that will show us who is actually stronger and the reason why I decided to do it like this is mostly because people try saying omega Shenron isn't universal and what not just because his minus energy wasn't going to destroy the universe all at once, however minus energy works much differently than ki.

Now for scaling super saiyan 4 I did get help from a video made by Broku72 so if you haven't checked him out yet I definitely recommend you do. But in anyways let's begin this with dragon ball gt goku.

GT goku

So we see kid goku in GT go up against a super saiyan Gohan and a super saiyan gotten, now since Gohan continued training in GT we can assume he gets a lot stronger (we'll just low ball to 50×) and base gohan should be about 12× stronger than kid buu or ssj3 goku
https://youtu.be/ols_BazWBXo
Thanks to this video.

Meaning base gohan is 600 times stronger than kidd buu however here he was taken over by baby and he was super saiyan and thanks to Broku we know the baby possession is basically the equivalent to a ssj3 increase from base.

So 600×40,000 (read my super saiyan chapter for details on that) gives us 24 million then ×8 for ssj2 and 3 and we get 192 million. Then since gohan was in super saiyan we can times that by another 40,000 to get 7.68 billion and then if we times that by 2 since he took on gohan and goten we get 1.536 times 10 to the 13.

So that's gokus power in base Goku but then we need to take into account Saiyan transformations so mastered super Saiyan is 40,000 ssj2 is 2 and 3 is 4 which gets us to 4.9152 times ten to the power of 18.

Then Broku explains why ssj4 is a 250,000× multiplier ontop of ssj3 so then we get, then to put down great ape baby which is about a 50 times increase and we get 195 quintillion. Then Broku explains how Goku gets 10,000 times stronger between the arks and we get 1.95 SEPTILLION!!!!!!!!!!!

Then in the shadow dragon saga when goku goes to fight base Nova shenron he says he's the strongest shadow dragon he's fought so far and beats him in base even though before he needed to be Ssj4 so that means this would be how much stronger base goku is than kid buu so now we need to go through all the multipliers again and we get 7.8 UNDECILLION, BUT THEN!!!!!! Base Goku when fighting omega Shenron manages to push back one of his attacks, and tanks hits from him when charging the spirit bomb, so let's say Goku after the time skip and after absorbing the dragon balls in base is 10 times stronger than ssj4 goku was before, keep in mind goku before also got another 50× increase from another power boost, so now basically we need to multiply the 7.8 undecillion by that 50 and then all of the multipliers again including that 50× and then a 10×.....fun 😂

So after ALL OF THAT I came to the conclusion of..... 78 Sexdecillion.... I didn't even know that was a number 😂😂

But now onto dbs Goku.

So goku shares the universe busting feat with beerus there's estimated to be at least 2 trillion galaxies in the universe, goku shares half the feat, if we assume he's galaxy level in dbz we get base goku after absorbing the god ki to be 1 trillion times stronger than kid buu, meaning, base gt goku would destroy him 😂😂

However Goku does get a lot stronger over the series so let's continue. So ssj blue goku by this point should be 1.28×10 to the 34 times stronger than kid buu. Vegeta trained with whis for half a year to get on the level of Goku who got 1 trillion times stronger than what he was in Z so let's use a low ball and just say he got 1 trillion times stronger in that half a year, meaning in a whole year he could get 2 trillion times stronger so in one day goku could get over 5000000000× stronger but we'll just use this to make it easier meaning Goku in SSJ blue in the frieza saga should be 64 Tredecillion times stronger than kid buu. By the time when Goku is going to recruit Frieza we see many hints that base goku would be stronger than golden frieza in the resurrection ark meaning base goku now equals ssj blue goku then. Meaning ssg goku by the end of the goku black ark is indeed stronger than ssj4 Goku at the end of gt.

So I'd say Ssj4 would probably scale to characters like Zamasu which is definitely more powerful than many thought... But still not enough, and sadly gogeta wouldn't make enough of a difference to beat ssg goku. Not to mention goku does still have blue and in the tournament of power he gets many times stronger than he did during the other arks. So overall if Ssj4 was in super, I could see him getting through everyone in the battle of God's ark and revival of F ark (besides beerus and whis) and I'd say that if he was fighting hit with the level of power hit was using I'd say ssj4 goku would beat him too, however he definitely loses to someone like Goku black, anyway hope you enjoyed.

Winner: dbs Goku